Whilst a cool idea, I think the risk of just getting into a ton of shit over it is probably not quite worth it. I see what you are saying but bah humbug. We've nothing to fear but fear itself. I've done nothing wrong apart from understand the science and technology behind the ticketing system. The Oyster Card is extremely easy to hack, and you don't need to disolve anything to get it to work. So anyone who did want to do anything bad with an oyster card wouldn't do what I'm doing. They would leave their oyster card untampered.
Yeah they could pull me over and fine me for not having a 'valid' oyster card in their eyes but thats it. Anything else that happened would be a massive overreaction and then it's best it did happen so that hopefully the uk didn't spiral out into idiocy.
But I did make sure I documented everything I did on the web first so that I had evidence. If you are travelling on any of our services without either:. a ticket that is valid and available for the journey you are making.
an Oyster card containing a valid season ticket. an Oyster card, when you are paying as you go, showing a record of the start of your trip or. a valid 11-15 Oyster photocard if you are aged 14 or 15 and are travelling free on a bus. a valid 16+ Oyster photocard if you are aged 16 or 17 (and if eligible 18 or 19) and are travelling free on a bus and we believe that you are trying to avoid paying the correct fare, you may be prosecuted. If the court finds you guilty it can fine you up to £1000 (or send you to prison for up to three months, if you were travelling on London Underground). I'd throw the book at someone doing this, to teach everyone else a lesson.
And whilst it's been a while since I've lived in london, I had to hand over my oyster card a few times during ticket inspections and when it failed to register an entrance/exit. It would be interesting to see what a 'valid' oyster card is. I would still have paid, and when requested to swipe my oyster It would scan fine. I really doubt they would send me to jail over it, and frankly the media attention and who-har (sic?) it would cause would be worth a grand. Throwing the book at someone for adapting his oyster card to make it more fun, and to learn about technology would seem a ridiculous waste of resources and time, and damaging to society.
If I fit my oyster card to my watch, so that I never forget it (as I often do, making me have to pay ridiculous paper ticket costs) I've done nothing wrong. And teaching me a lesson for it, quite frankly makes it a crime to be interested in things. I think you'll find that to use the Oyster card you have to agree to a set of terms and conditions. If you chose to break these, then blaming anyone but yourself is silly. If you don't like the t&c's don't use the service. And I think tampering with the card is against it, and would probably result in it no longer being a valid card. I hate 'if you don't like the t&c just don't use it' arguments.
They are ridiculous. It's a extreme and much more black and white (pun intended) comparison, but shouldn't have used the bus if she wasn't happy with the t&c's.
I'm not doing anything morally wrong, though I'm well aware of how this can't be my proper oyster card. But I think this is both educational and worthy. And a brilliant way to get people interested in how the technology they use works. There's actually nothing in the T&C's that says I can't do this, or that damaging your card invalidates it. I'm pretty sure those aren't the full Oyster card terms and conditions, but even then If we believe that your ticket or Oyster card (or your photocard) has been tampered with we may withdraw it.
If this happens, we will not replace it or give you a refund of the remaining value. I think at that point you're kinda travelling without a ticket. I mean either way, had you started this off with 'I'm a devout muslim and I'm going to do this' I'm pretty sure several people would have cautioned against it, so I don't see why I should treat anyone else any differently. I didn't mean to insult you Rook. But stuff doesn't get changed by a law man looking at a book and deciding the laws are unconstitutional, it gets changed by civil disobedience.
Not that anything that I am doing is civil diobedience. If they think it's been tampered with and take it off me, fair enough really. I just think with all this talk of terrorism and fear that the appropriate reaction isn't to stop doing things incase they are interpreted badly, it's to keep doing them to show you are not scared. Before 7/7 no one would have particularly cared, so they shouldn't care now.
The fact that I would be treated differently because I'm not a muslim is whats wrong not what I am doing. I shouldn't back off just because they would treat some one else differently.
I think RFID chips and the oyster network is a big privacy concern and needs to be considered carefully. As such raising awareness on what and how it works is only a good thing. And besides IMO all it comes down to is that if I use it (and it's more of a novelty/backup than my main ticket) I'm paying with a damaged oyster card. I'd be kinda tempted to make a 'glass' Oyster card with blue tinted nylon or vinyl and print the Oyster logo on it, but leave it transparent otherwise. Or actually use glass, but that would be silly., yes, blahblah T&C, fines, jail sentences etc., who cares. Unlike certain other nations, the judges in this country aren't bred specifically to be Xtra-retarded and will usually give you the benefit of the doubt s as long as you don't roll up to the court looking like a career lout/fare-dodger.
Even if they do rule against you, for a first offence, you are more likely to be bound over (possibly for life tho.) than told to pay the £1000. Also, when a ticket's validity is determined by the location of a number in a database, the shape of the ticket is irrelevant. I mean, I've seen numerous e-ticketing systems that rely on printed barcodes (see Royal Mail's new e-stamps) and almost all of them have the number printed next to the code in a human-readable format in case of damage so that manual entry can be used as a fall-back. Also the ones that use SMS to send the number to your mobile.as long as the number can be reliably retrieved, the 'ticket' is still good. Actually, that's it - stick the remnants inside the battery cover of your phone; it's rigid enough to prevent accidental destruction of some very fine wires and ubiquitous enough that no-one will look at you funny for having it. What's the lesson you want taught, Rook?
Harmless fun must be punished? If I was in charge of an organisation responsible for getting several million people through their commute daily and new how many delays were cause by the most inane and trivial things? Mostly, that your own personal amusement that day probably isn't more important than everyone else. Yes, I'm sure holding up a magic wand to an oyster reader isn't about to do that, but travelling around with a microchip and a length of antenna on a system that has been regularly targetted by various people probably isn't the smartest idea anyone has ever come up with. And if you've seen how much shit happens to a station and all the crap people go through when somebody accidentally drops some icing sugar (and I'm not kidding) then you'll begin to appreciate that small things can have big consequences.
I'm sure this will go fine and everyone will be happy. I also think there's a very miniscule chance it might not. And I don't think that chance, however small it might be, is worth it on this occasion given the reward of having a magic wand to wave at a barrier. Edit: And I should add that terrorism etc isn't something that started on the 7/7th.
London's been bombed by the IRA more than a fair few times. What's the lesson you want taught, Rook? Harmless fun must be punished? If I was in charge of an organisation responsible for getting several million people through their commute daily and new how many delays were cause by the most inane and trivial things?
Mostly, that your own personal amusement that day probably isn't more important than everyone else. Yes, I'm sure holding up a magic wand to an oyster reader isn't about to do that, but travelling around with a microchip and a length of antenna on a system that has been regularly targetted by various people probably isn't the smartest idea anyone has ever come up with. And if you've seen how much shit happens to a station and all the crap people go through when somebody accidentally drops some icing sugar (and I'm not kidding) then you'll begin to appreciate that small things can have big consequences. I'm sure this will go fine and everyone will be happy. I also think there's a very miniscule chance it might not. And I don't think that chance, however small it might be, is worth it on this occasion given the reward of having a magic wand to wave at a barrier. Edit: And I should add that terrorism etc isn't something that started on the 7/7th.
London's been bombed by the IRA more than a fair few times. I see your point of view but I say that 'not being terrified that everything you are doing is going to be misconstrued as terrorism' is the only proper response to terrorism. I'm also well aware that terrorism has been going on a lot longer than 7/7 but it seems that 9/11 and 7/7 seems to be the moment when we chucked our common sense out of the window when dealing with it.
I've not got these opinions lightly, I was here in London on 7/7 and I spent the day looking after my friend who was by the bus as it blew up. I saw the horror in his eyes. I understand the seriousness of it all. I've also had to deal with a man attacking a woman on tube (thankfully a much bigger man than me stopped him, whilst I ran and got a guard). I understand the seriousness of the tube.
But I've also been on the tube during guy falkes night and seen countless people wandering around with enough fireworks to kill eveyone on there. No one cared. Relatedly I've also seen a hundred odd geeks hidden behind guy falkes masks use the tube together when protesting Scientology. No one cared. So overall I do believe that putting an oyster card in a wand and going 'abracadabra' is more important than living in fear. No kidding London's been bombed before 7/7: Lave didn't say that terrorism in London started on 7/7; he said that unreasonable paranoia and erosions of civil liberties started then. And he was mostly correct.
Largely it started with 9/11, but that mostly didn't touch England, so our rights didn't start to be really abridged until after then. I'm pretty sure london underground in particular has always been a bit hardcore on it's terrorism watch since long before then. Not to the extent of putting armed officers with loaded MP5s into tube stations. And especially not to the extent of letting said officers wander around with the safeties off. Yes, I checked. That was unprecedented and frankly, totally uncalled-for. And also, terrorism watching does not mean looking for slightly abnormal tickets.
If anything, terrorists consistently use genuine, unmodified tickets as much as possible, in order to reduce the attention paid to them before the 'main event.' Well, the goal of terrorism is to encite terror. If Lave were so scared by terrorism that he would be convinced to not do this perfectly legal then the terrorism would have succeeded. So next time I see a suspicious package I should ignore it, knowing that reporting it would just be helping the terrorist cause? And I'm fairly sure that the arguement that doing A regardless of the consequences as it's more important than living in state B is roughly the same logic people use when A involves exploding things and B involves a godless society. But morals aside, I was asked to justify why I think someone working for TfL might look harshly on this.
I mean Lave's probably right that they are too busy worrying about the usual assortment of freaks to worry about anything else. Secondly, we can send bat off an e-mail to TfL and ask them whether melting down your Oyster card to expose the bare inards is OK, but I think we both know what the answer to that is going to be. And Lave/Ben/You are probably right, that the worst that's going to happen is a slap on the wrist. No kidding London's been bombed before 7/7: Lave didn't say that terrorism in London started on 7/7; he said that unreasonable paranoia and erosions of civil liberties started then.
And he was mostly correct. Largely it started with 9/11, but that mostly didn't touch England, so our rights didn't start to be really abridged until after then. I'm pretty sure london underground in particular has always been a bit hardcore on it's terrorism watch since long before then. Not to the extent of putting armed officers with loaded MP5s into tube stations. Kartina tv crack serial keygen. And especially not to the extent of letting said officers wander around with the safeties off.
Yes, I checked. That was unprecedented and frankly, totally uncalled-for. And also, terrorism watching does not mean looking for slightly abnormal tickets. If anything, terrorists consistently use genuine, unmodified tickets as much as possible, in order to reduce the attention paid to them before the 'main event.' Do you seriously think there hasn't been armed officers on the tube before? Well, the goal of terrorism is to encite terror. If Lave were so scared by terrorism that he would be convinced to not do this perfectly legal then the terrorism would have succeeded.
So next time I see a suspicious package I should ignore it, knowing that reporting it would just be helping the terrorist cause? And I'm fairly sure that the arguement that doing A regardless of the consequences as it's more important than living in state B is roughly the same logic people use when A involves exploding things and B involves a godless society. I'm genuinely shocked that this is your reply to the above. This is about what actually looks like a threat. A backpack left alone could be. So they are right to warn you to do that. Very few people would disagree.
However would be a thing that most people would agree is ridiculous. It's only inches away from 'Muslims taking photos!? Call the Cops!'
And both situations are a million miles from geek uses magicians wand to open barrier. And your final example, with all due respect is the most idiotic and ill thought out thing I have ever heard you say. I'm don't mean to insult you because you are one of my favourite posters. But morals aside, I was asked to justify why I think someone working for TfL might look harshly on this.
I mean Lave's probably right that they are too busy worrying about the usual assortment of freaks to worry about anything else. Secondly, we can send bat off an e-mail to TfL and ask them whether melting down your Oyster card to expose the bare inards is OK, but I think we both know what the answer to that is going to be. And Lave/Ben/You are probably right, that the worst that's going to happen is a slap on the wrist. I get this though.
EDIT: And once I've finished the project I'm planning on asking TFL to comment on it. Let them say what they think. Let me know if it works.
I'd love to stitch mine into my wallet. Or gums, so to beep in I have to kiss the reader. See, I was thinking glove, or maybe a medieval knight's gauntlet. Also, you need to be thinking about how you're going to convince the guy at the ticket shop that your Iron Man do.er, Action Figure, is an Oyster Card. I've known them to get confused by simply sticking a one-day travelcard over the top in my card-holder and forgetting to remove it. Then you scream 'FALCON.PUUUUNCH!'
And punch where the magic doohickey is supposed to be waved. Bonus points if you set your hand on fire first. Well, the goal of terrorism is to encite terror. If Lave were so scared by terrorism that he would be convinced to not do this perfectly legal then the terrorism would have succeeded. So next time I see a suspicious package I should ignore it, knowing that reporting it would just be helping the terrorist cause? And I'm fairly sure that the arguement that doing A regardless of the consequences as it's more important than living in state B is roughly the same logic people use when A involves exploding things and B involves a godless society.
I'm genuinely shocked that this is your reply to the above.Thread Tangent- I'll think you find the logic is quite sound on that. I mean these people don't do this stuff because they're evil, they do it because they really believe it's that important and they believe what they're doing is right and that's how they justify it./Thread Tangent. This is about what actually looks like a threat. A backpack left alone could be.
So they are right to warn you to do that. Very few people would disagree. However would be a thing that most people would agree is ridiculous. It's only inches away from 'Muslims taking photos!? Call the Cops!' I'm pretty sure since you're concealling what you did in an oyster wallet you know that what you did might look suspicious to people. I'm pretty sure doing things that people might find suspicious can sometimes have really bad consequences.
Look at Lite Brite. 'Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.' And people who miss out the essential Liberty in an attempt to justify their reasoning should really think about it a bit harder. Here's my reasoning: every Liberty is essential. Or Liberty itself is essential. Your line of thought goes with the mentality that 'as long as you're doing nothing wrong, you don't have to worry'. That's a horrid way of living, but more to the point, it's a horrific concession of a person's basic freedoms.
Yes, even something as minor as a simple card hack. He's legally paying for his trips otherwise. If the LU admin has a problem with it, their regulations should be concise and to the point: no modification of the cards. But he shouldn't be afraid to do this out of fear of being harassed by the police.
Well, the goal of terrorism is to encite terror. If Lave were so scared by terrorism that he would be convinced to not do this perfectly legal then the terrorism would have succeeded. So next time I see a suspicious package I should ignore it, knowing that reporting it would just be helping the terrorist cause? And I'm fairly sure that the arguement that doing A regardless of the consequences as it's more important than living in state B is roughly the same logic people use when A involves exploding things and B involves a godless society. I'm genuinely shocked that this is your reply to the above.Thread Tangent- I'll think you find the logic is quite sound on that. Mean these people don't do this stuff because they're evil, they do it because they really believe it's that important and they believe what they're doing is right and that's how they justify it./Thread Tangent- Indeed I agree with what I've bolded.
But it has no releation to the fact that I might cause a minor cuffle on the tube. This is about what actually looks like a threat. A backpack left alone could be.
So they are right to warn you to do that. Very few people would disagree. However would be a thing that most people would agree is ridiculous.
It's only inches away from 'Muslims taking photos!? Call the Cops!' I'm pretty sure since you're concealling what you did in an oyster wallet you know that what you did might look suspicious to people. I'm pretty sure doing things that people might find suspicious can sometimes have really bad consequences. Look at Lite Brite.
A no point have I said that I'm going out of my way to cause a scene. I kept it in the wallet to keep it safe, but of corse I also did it to make it look less weird. I'm not trying to cause a ruckus. Terrorism or not.
Most of it came from the fact that I felt like a pillock filming myself using the tube. 'Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.' And people who miss out the essential Liberty in an attempt to justify their reasoning should really think about it a bit harder. /quote Indeed it is but, like einstein quotes on God, thats misinterpreting his intention. He's referring to liberty as being essential. Not the subset of liberty which is essential. I missed the essential as I was reciting it from memory.
It's clear we have different opinions on this, and it would make for a good thread, but nevertheless, we are talking about slightly changing an oyster card. Even if Ben F agreed with you, which to my reading he does not, It's obvious that he would have thought this minor issue is not one of concern to liberty.
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Hello, I just moved into my friends apartment and found that he has quite an annoying problem with his PC. When the computer is not muted there is a constant beeping noise that could best be described as some sort of siren like noise. I imagine that this should not be too difficult to fix, but I don't really know what to do or where to start. I would appreciate it if you guys could help me get to the bottom of this! My friend is not sure what type of soundcard he has, but he does believe this is where the problem is. He does not keep a cover on his tower, so I just peeked inside.
I only see 2 cards, they appear to be 1) a video card & 2) a wireless card. No signs of a soundcard at all.
His computer is an X86-based PC, running XP Professional SP 2, SMBIOS version 2.2 I don't know what other info I may be able to provide, just ask if anything else is needed. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated! There is no sound card, it just runs off the mother board. I have tried re-installing an updated driver, this did not work. The sound is faint, but gets louder as the volume is raised. I was thinking it had something to do with my 5.1 system frequencies not being fully supported by the mother board or something.
It is very possible it IS a heatsink problem. My buddy that installed it messed up the little plastic arms that clamp down the heatsink but said 'it would work fine'. Are these arms something I can replace or should I just by a whole new CPU?
I have an Intel Pent. 4 3.0 Ghz on a Abit m/b. I just bought C&C 3 (I high performance video game) and 5 minutes into running it the game shuts off. The monitor says 'no input' but the power supply and hard drive are running. Would this be a related problem - the heatsink?
To Whom It May Concern: When I log on to my computer, it works fine. After about 30 seconds though, the mouse pointer starts becoming very laggy, and whenever I click the mouse, a beep comes out of the speakers that are plugged into the headphone port. Mouse motion is very jagged, and I can't click on anything. All actions are very delayed, CTRL-ALT-DEL takes about 20 seconds to register and then show the security options, etc. What could be going on? HP Pavilion dv7t Entertainment Edition Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Thanks. Hi Noahbm, 1.
What is the exact model of the computer? Did you check the issue status in safe mode?
Which antivirus application are you using? This issue might be because of hardware malfunctioning or virus infection. Refer to these in the order in which they are presented and check. Method 1: Run the following troubleshooter and check Open the Performance troubleshooter. Run Hardware Troubleshooter. Method 2: I would suggest you to scan your computer with Microsoft Safety Scanner, which would help us to get rid of virus, spyware, and other malicious software.
The Microsoft Safety Scanner is a free downloadable security tool that provides on-demand scanning and helps remove virus, spyware, and other malicious software. It works with your existing antivirus software.
Note: The Microsoft Safety Scanner expires 10 days after being downloaded. To rerun a scan with the latest anti-malware definitions, download and run the Microsoft Safety Scanner again. Note: Any data files that are infected may only be cleaned by deleting the file entirely, which means there is a potential for data loss. Method 3: If the issue still persists, start the computer in safe mode and check. Safe mode in Windows 7. Hope this information helps you. Please do let us know if you need further assistance, we’ll be glad to assist you.
Hello Noah, Thank you for your reply and apology for the delayed response. Were you able to run Performance Troubleshooter and Microsoft Safety Scanner as suggested by Ganesh Achar B?
What was the result? To identify the actual cause of the issue, it is important to check if the issue persists in safe mode. Safe mode is the diagnostic mode which starts your computer in limited state with only the basic files and drivers necessary to start Windows. If an existing problem does not reappear in safe mode, it’s certain that there are some third party application or some driver might be causing the issue. Method 1: Step 1: As a troubleshooting method, first, I would recommend you to start your computer in safe mode.
(Refer the link in the above post by Ganesh Achar B on February 3, 2014 to start the computer in safe mode). If issue does not persists in safe mode I would have you perform Clean boot, to eliminate the conflicting software or drivers. Follow the steps in the article below to perform clean boot. Step 2: How to perform a clean boot in Windows Note: After you have finished troubleshooting, follow these steps from section “How to reset the computer to start normally after clean boot troubleshooting” to reset the computer to start as usual. Method 2: Temporarily disable security software (Norton 360 7.0 Premier Edition) and check. Follow the steps in the article below to disable security software.
Disclaimer: If you have to temporarily disable security software, you should re-enable it as soon as you're done. If you're connected to the Internet or a network while your antivirus software is disabled, your computer is vulnerable to attacks. Hope this helps. Please let us know the status. Feel free to write us back in case you face any other issue with Windows in future. Regards, Mann Manohar.
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Its been 15 years since Londoners first got their hands on the Oyster Card, the travel card that's now synonymous with wallets across the capital. The piece below, originally written in 2016, explains exactly what makes your little blue friend tick. The gates clunk open. The Oyster card has become synonymous with London transport, but, for most of us, it’s nothing more than another card in the wallet. It’s technology reduced to nothing but two noises: a happy beep or an angry blip. Inside that slip of blue plastic, however, there’s more than just a dumb microchip.
How does it work? At its most basic, an Oyster card works with radio-frequency identification (RFID) technology, which is the same technology used by NFC in smartphones. Place an Oyster card near a suitable RFID reader, and an electromagnetic field is created between the reader and the chip in your Oyster card. This allows data to be transferred from the reader to your card, indicating that you’ve either started or finished a leg of your journey. The Oyster card receives data, and the reader records the card’s unique user ID, so you can think of it rather like a paper ticket being stamped.
You’ll need to hold it a bit closer to the reader, Boris. The clever bit is that there’s no power source in the Oyster card itself – when it’s close enough to the card reader, the reader sends energy to the card via radio waves, generating power via a phenomenon known as electromagnetic induction. This powers up the microchip in the Oyster card long enough to let the reader access the data stored inside, allowing it to check whether the card contains a valid Travelcard or enough pay-as-you-go balance for the journey, and then write data back to it.
What happens to my Oyster data? The Oyster readers at stations don’t immediately communicate with the TfL servers. Instead, they upload the recorded Oyster card information in batches to the central servers, which is why there’s a roughly 24-hour lag between you making a journey and the data being visible on the TfL website.
Transport for London retain the data of a particular Oyster card for eight weeks. This means that – if you’ve registered your card – you can go to the TfL website to see all the journeys you’ve made over that period, and whether you touched in and out successfully at each end. This is a good way of checking you haven’t been overcharged by a faulty Oyster reader. After eight weeks, the data isn’t deleted, but is anonymised, so is no longer associated with your user ID. What is the technology inside the Oyster card? When the Oyster card first came onto the scene in 2003, it was powered by a very basic microchip – the NXP/Philips’ MIFARE Classic.
This technology was widely used for workplace ID cards and electronic wallet applications. The chip did little more than store data – a whopping 1024 bytes of the stuff, or fifteen million times less storage than your average smartphone – and used NXP’s own proprietary 48-bit encryption technology. However, NXP’s MIFARE Classic was dogged with security concerns. In January 2008, a German computer club, the Chaos Computer Club, worked alongside colleagues from the University of Virginia in breaking the card’s encryption.
This allowed them to freely read data from the MIFARE Classic chips, add money to empty payment cards, generate new users with access rights, or even clone cards in their entirety. Following a variety of successful hacking demonstrations, in July 2008. The future of Oyster cards.
'The CPU in modern Oyster cards is based on an Intel design from the 1980s.' This prompted TfL to retire the MIFARE Classic-based cards in 2009, replacing them with the far more advanced MiFARE DESFire EV1 technology. The current cards based on this technology are far more advanced than their Classic predecessors. They’re no longer relatively dumb data-storage chips, but are actually tiny, basic CPUs that are capable of basic computing tasks. In fact, the CPU in modern Oyster cards is actually based on the Intel MCS-51, a microcontroller designed by Intel way back in the 1980s. The new Oyster cards still have no battery or power source, so are only powered when they’re near an RFID reader, but they contain their own operating system, have a file structure for storing files and data, and their processing functions allow them to perform encryption to the far more resilient AES 128-bit standard.
Pretty clever stuff for something that looks like a credit card. Can you hack an Oyster card? Fancy your chances at hacking a modern Oyster card? That’ll be tricky. Even though third-party RFID readers can power and communicate with them, the only way to recover the required AES encryption keys would be to steal one of the Oyster readers and reverse-engineer the whole process.
Best of luck with slipping one of those in your back pocket.
Description Manage your adult Oyster and contactless cards on the move with the app. BenjiBaby2010 First, I must say that it is good to have an app where you can check your cards, add top ups, check your journey history and correct error when you didn’t register your tap in correctly. That’s really good. Now the bad stuff. This app is badly designed from a user experience point of view.
It’s not nearly as intuitive as most apps should be on an iPhone and the layout is chaotic. I suspect it was designed by committee at TfL rather than by an experienced app developer who would have had the user in mind.
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I’ve been involved in successful consultations on apps in development and I’ve seen this go wrong before, but this is honestly the most amateur big-company app that I’ve seen in about 4 years. The other big missed opportunity here is that TfL should have incorporated the journey planner in to the app. At the moment, it just forwards you the TfL journey planner website which means you’ve got to wait for that page to load and for all graphics to load each time you get the results. Please can TfL include this in the app itself with an improved layout that allows intuitive use right from the first screen of the app and gives faster loading for those times when you’re rushing for the train and need to know which platform to run to? The incorporation of the journey planner in to the app itself would definitely have added an extra star to my review. BenjiBaby2010 First, I must say that it is good to have an app where you can check your cards, add top ups, check your journey history and correct error when you didn’t register your tap in correctly. That’s really good.
Now the bad stuff. This app is badly designed from a user experience point of view. It’s not nearly as intuitive as most apps should be on an iPhone and the layout is chaotic. I suspect it was designed by committee at TfL rather than by an experienced app developer who would have had the user in mind. I’ve been involved in successful consultations on apps in development and I’ve seen this go wrong before, but this is honestly the most amateur big-company app that I’ve seen in about 4 years.
The other big missed opportunity here is that TfL should have incorporated the journey planner in to the app. At the moment, it just forwards you the TfL journey planner website which means you’ve got to wait for that page to load and for all graphics to load each time you get the results.
Please can TfL include this in the app itself with an improved layout that allows intuitive use right from the first screen of the app and gives faster loading for those times when you’re rushing for the train and need to know which platform to run to? The incorporation of the journey planner in to the app itself would definitely have added an extra star to my review. GGeek82 I was redirected to the app from the tfl webpage when I was trying to get an update on a bus route and when it would resume normal service. I downloaded the app and the clicked on journey planner only to be directed back to the website on my browser away from the app. This app can be so much more then looking at ones oyster account but they haven't even bothered. It's really bad when apps like this are launched without being well just MORE, considering for instance Citymapper offer.
This is TFL, everyone is getting this information from them, you would think they of all organisations would have first hand access to a huge amount of travel data. For instance I would like to type in a bus route and find out if it's taking diversions and when normal service will be resumed.
Notifications on if my underground and DLR routes is having issues, etc. In this days and age you can't have apps like this. GGeek82 I was redirected to the app from the tfl webpage when I was trying to get an update on a bus route and when it would resume normal service. I downloaded the app and the clicked on journey planner only to be directed back to the website on my browser away from the app. This app can be so much more then looking at ones oyster account but they haven't even bothered. It's really bad when apps like this are launched without being well just MORE, considering for instance Citymapper offer.
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This is TFL, everyone is getting this information from them, you would think they of all organisations would have first hand access to a huge amount of travel data. For instance I would like to type in a bus route and find out if it's taking diversions and when normal service will be resumed. Notifications on if my underground and DLR routes is having issues, etc. In this days and age you can't have apps like this. IncubusDig The app says it can’t accept first generation Oyster cards and that you’ll need to upgrade. However it’s shows you how to tell if it’s first or second generation by the ‘D’ next to ‘Mayor of London’ at the back of the card. So I am wondering why my card is not being accepted if it has a ‘D’ on the back and is clearly a second generation.
Edit: I was trying to connect an 18+ Student Oyster ‘photocard’ and now understand that photocards are not accepted. This of course makes sense for the 16+ Oyster not to be accepted since it’s free travel however 18+ Student Oyster photo card is not.
Seems like the photocard tfl site is the only way to see your credit for photocard users. This app will be better once this option added.
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IncubusDig The app says it can’t accept first generation Oyster cards and that you’ll need to upgrade. However it’s shows you how to tell if it’s first or second generation by the ‘D’ next to ‘Mayor of London’ at the back of the card. So I am wondering why my card is not being accepted if it has a ‘D’ on the back and is clearly a second generation. Edit: I was trying to connect an 18+ Student Oyster ‘photocard’ and now understand that photocards are not accepted. This of course makes sense for the 16+ Oyster not to be accepted since it’s free travel however 18+ Student Oyster photo card is not. Seems like the photocard tfl site is the only way to see your credit for photocard users.
This app will be better once this option added.